Rep. Boebert: “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk”


Speaking to an audience at the Cornerstone Christian Center in Basalt on June 26, 2022 — two days before the primary election — House Rep. Lauren Boebert called for America to become a theocracy, a system of government in which the church directs the government.

Strutting back and forth across the stage like a televangelist, Boebert told the audience,

“The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church. That is not how our founding fathers intended it. And I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk. That’s not the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like what they say.”

Boebert was referring to historic correspondence between the Danbury Baptists of Connecticut and President Thomas Jefferson.

On October 7, 1801, the Baptists wrote Thomas Jefferson saying they were concerned that the U.S. Constitution wasn’t clear enough on the subject of religion. The Baptists interpreted the Constitution as meaning religious privileges were essentially a favor granted by the government, and not an inalienable right. The Baptists sought clarification from Jefferson on this.

Jefferson wrote the Baptists back on January 1, 1802, clarifying that religion is a matter “solely between a Man and his God.” Jefferson said “the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions,” and said,

“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

Jefferson’s letter clarified the founders’ intent that religion and government should be kept strictly separate — as though separated by a wall — and that government should not mandate or endorse any religion. His message was that Americans can engage in their own religious beliefs free from government interference. Thus his letter made it clear that the founders’ intent was that America have a secular (nonreligious) government.

The opposite of a secular government is a theocracy, a system of government in which religious priests rule over the people in the name of God or gods. Theocracies around the world today include Afghanistan under Taliban rule, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Yemen, Sudan and Saudi Arabia, all Islamic. In Saudi Arabia, anyone caught promoting any religion than Islam is subject to strict punishment up to and including the death penalty. In Iran, being an atheist or promoting any religion other than Islam is punishable by death for men, and life in prison for women.

Not so in the U.S.

In the U.S., government does not mandate religions, or force religion on others.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” The words “separation of church and state” are not in the First Amendment, but the wording of the Amendment has long been interpreted to mean that in the U.S., religion shall be kept distinctly separate from government. It was a groundbreaking idea at the time, and has long been the tenet that has set America apart from other countries around the world — the assurance that all citizens are entitled to enjoy their religion free from government interference, and the corollary, that government will be free from religious influence.

In short, our secular government is one of the unique things that makes America truly great.

Rep. Boebert is advocating the opposite — a religious government run that rules over everyone and everything, no matter how it oppresses people who don’t belong to that religion.

This is fundamentally an unAmerican idea, more suited to Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia..

 

  28 comments for “Rep. Boebert: “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk”

  1. What’s this example of cause > effect have to do with Boebert’s ignorance?

    Oh, right…nothing. Y’all just have to deflect every time a Republican does something stupid.

    It’s a full-time job.

    • yes, its very dangerous when the judicial becomes political.
      You have probably learned that for your reading of history. Silly me, I assumed you can read.

      In related news , sid you see CA’s Governor Newsom & Presidential hopeful forbid State employees from traveling to certain states, over some grandstanding BS leftist position or another … Montana was one such banned state.

      But then Newsom wanted to have a little vacation in MT so HE went.
      And naturally he brought his large security detail … of CA employees.

      Rules for thee, not for me! You should know how those situations end up.
      ncswic

    • It doesn’t work that way, Cletus. First, that ambulatory mound of crap rolled in cigarette butts has to waddle into a closed environment and be deposed.

      It won’t be cinematic.

      • correctamundo. It will be a backfire brushfire.

        Despite this being an “investigation” the puppets can not have open or cross examined testimony,
        they will be limited closed-door & heavily edited & misleading “leaks” .
        A lot like the entire Russiarussiarussia Affair; investigate the innocent, leak lies and protect the guilty.
        What do you have against people’s weights, bigot ? Concerned about the popcorn shortage?

        • That’s typical; Trump mocks a disabled reporter, and you giggle like an underaged Lauren Boebert, admiring Jayson’s “wit”; but someone dares hint that one of your heroes isn’t as you picture them in your sweaty, sticky, fantasies, and you lose your composure. There’s a reason people like you find Trump so relatable.

          Can’t wait for the hearings tomorrow…

    • oh He does. A very forgiving one … try it.

      More than owned by the demons debasing scripture against the Lord.
      Humility does not require one to be mere prey for the godless.

      A rough calculation would = (cloak sales ) / ( sword costs)

  2. Rep. Boebert is incorrect. Government does embrace and does require elected officials to be honest which is an important religious teaching. Religion also teaches one to be respectful, humble and kind. These teachings are not against the law and are incorporated into government duties.
    Rep. Boebert is an easy target but calling her names keeps her supporters, who only see and hear the mean retorts, blind to her inconsistence thoughts and lack of real understanding and leadership.

  3. Hitchin a bride—did you read the question first? Or did you totally misunderstand the assignment? Also, what is your psychosexual obsession with bidens kids about? Also, I’m glad they’re under investigation for tax fraud and if they did it I hope they get the fair punishment they deserve. But that is the difference between me and you–if a Dem breaks the law, I want punishment. On the other hand, when trump raw dogs porn stars while not paying taxes at all AND fellating Vlad Putin, you cheer.

    • Tuber, thats easy ; Biden’s kids were tools, & occasional victims, of the feckless biden crime / shakedown family. Been happening for years , back to the credit card and insurance industries. Dig in – there is PLENTY for all to learn! They are also pretty lousy human beings by many (including their own) accounts.
      And victims (as well as a few perpetrators) …. of pedophilic sexual abuse by predators joe & hunter.
      Since when is exposing criminals of their crimes a sign of guilt ? sad trick there tuber
      `
      Most importantly the currently incapacitated joe , the illegally installed occupant of the WH, is directly involved in the Chinese & Ukraine grifts (tons of evidence including his own words, recorded) fronted by poor poor Hunter, as if it wasn’t obvious before.

      When will it pierce your dense skull that much of the Russia-hate you have been fed is a distraction for the massive sell out to China, common in our so called leaders of politics, business & technology. Its really easy to understand if you escape the Maddcow info bubble & inform yourself. Its basically Barbarian Management 101;
      Pay Off the Barbarian Leaders. The Center Kingdom has employed those techniques many times before.

      And if the bio-warfare programs Russian accuses (with evidence. for instance look into the Metabiota deal ) elements of the US industry-military leftist neocon war-party is true, then the level of biden stink is off scale.
      You HAVE noticed a little thing called covid going on/
      Do you not yet understand the administrative States role in this ? You have not studied your Fauci.

      If you want justice like you claim , why are you OK with the rampant censorship & de-platforming of those exposing the crimes ? I hope they get nailed too but the administrative state is dedicated to propping up those who help construct the administrative state, so its been a real slog.

      and by the way, your misinformed hatred is exposed again; 1st, if Trump screws some woman – who cares ?
      Hilarious when the alphabet-people suddenly get prudish. What happened to “stick it in anything” clique?
      By the way, Stormy OWES Trump several $100K as a result of those lies, meanwhile her sleazy lawyer Avenati actually stole Stormy’s momentary-(in)fame money ( and is in jail instead of running for POTUS 24 . just loll)
      But that little scam somehow guides your thinking. Thats too too funny.

      Now tell me the tax issues. Trump get audited every year. Should be easy to show all his convictions.
      Now, Hunter’s taxes woes (coming soon but not to a corporate-controlled media) will be interesting . Your last regurgitation of a falsehood, baselessly accusing Trump & Putin of homosexuality, exposing your true bigotry and (self)deceptions. Still with the school-boy thoughts I see …

    • dear tubby-

      Just off the top, I resent Joe Biden riding the ” Lock up Crackheads” movement – when it benefited his political campaigns- but Hunter ( the smartest man Joe knows) was deeply involved in the same & worse yet doesn’t even get a passing mention. I resent Joe wants to disarm We the People even of our lung-exploding (LOL) 9mm rounds but Hunter buys ILLEGALLY a gun, then it gets tossed on top of the trash near a school by ANOTHER biden who is terrified by Hunter, and instead of charges ( which WERE justified) the Biden’s gun crime gets the Secret Service involved (which was NOT justified at the time – no SS protection was merited at that time. That didn’t stop the SS from trying to strong arm & threaten various parties involved.)

      I am only as interested in Hunter Biden’s crimes & perversions as far as they are connected to his dad (the US’s sitting pResident & imPotus.). In fact, Hunter was Joey Bribes’ bag-man, a job that clearly haunted & armed him.
      Poor Hunter, mGsm

      Weekend Update; Hunter Biden’s iPhone backup data allegedly hacked by 4chan users; Members of the 4chan community have allegedly hacked Hunter Biden’s iCloud, cracking his iPhone’s password on Saturday, and began posting details from the backup while 4chan admins (comfy home to the some of most salacious yet uncensored posts on the web) made futile efforts to take it all down.

      In Oct 2020 Raheem Kassam broke news that Joe Biden chose the pseudonym “Peter Henderson” (name of a US traitor in a Tom Clancy novel) in communications. Now, 4Chan has discovered that his own son, Hunter, named Joe “Pedo Peter” in his own references … lollOLOlloOlOlooLLOllLOlLOlLOllOLLOLOLOL. Poor Ashley.. .those hairy legs …. .

      Its quaint when you tout, but fail to understand, the fake bimbo eruption over Trump’s alleged (consensual) sex.
      End Reslut; Stormy has to pay Trump >$300K for libel/slander, after she was robbed of $Millions by Avenatti.
      Poor kid learned the hard way the 17th Commandment- “Thou shalt not be the left’s Useful Idiot.

      But you ignore all the evidence against Hero of the Left , Bill Clinton, serial rapist. And HiLIARy, lifetime beard.
      And information coming out of Hunter’s laptop has illustrated that between November 2018 and March 2019, Joe Biden wired his son $100,000 for his “expenses,” at least $30,000 of which went to pay off delinquent hooker debts. B’Cos badmanorange.

  4. The Wisconsin Supreme Court holds ballot drop boxes are illegal.
    528 of these illegal drop boxes were used in the 2020 election.
    Thus, “thousands of [2020] votes have been cast via this unlawful method.”
    Biden “won” Wisconsin by ~20,000 votes…

    CBS: Hunter Biden is under investigation for “tax fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, as well as whether Hunter, James Biden and their business associates complied with foreign lobbying laws”

    • You don’t have a link, do you?
      Because CBS is only reporting that Republicans are seeking documents for another distraction…to you, that’s launching yet another “investigation”.

      Because just don’t have the spine for actual discourse.

      • Knives Out: WaPo, NYT Go For Biden Blood In Scathing Moment Of Honesty.

        Over the past month or so, mainstream media has overtly abandoned President Biden – the man they relentlessly shilled for during the 2020 election, as the establishment drug out extreme measures to unseat Trump.

        “Rudderless, aimless and hopeless” is how one member of Dongress described the White House.

        Shame on the media for letting this man hide in his basement during the 2020 election.
        He never had the mental or physical stamina , let alone the ethics, for the job.
        Yet MSM pumped. and pumped. and pumped

      • Mr Wilson- oughtencha do you own homework ? Long ago tired of dragging your deadweight around here.

        Out of sheer pity, I’ll give you a clue ; “Catherine Herridge” Senior Investigative Correspondent

        (psst – when you insult someone, don’t liken them to the “star” . Wilson was the impotent yet dis-likable putz)

        • “Do your own homework” = “I don’t have a link, or my link actually disputes my claim, and I’m too chickenshit to admit it”

          • Herridge said it you moron. ON CBS. have a blast with your HUYA

            oh and DOJ Jan 6. Documents Leaked to The Gateway Pundit; FBI Confidential Human Source INFILTRATED Proud Boys, Ran FBI Operation on J-6, Reported They Were INNOCENT!
            Wray must go

  5. Boubert & the Christian Right seem to forget that America was founded by people fleeing religious persecution from Jews? Muslims? Hindus? No – Christians! Let’s look at the history of “Christian” nations. The crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc. That’s why the founding fathers & Thomas Jefferson were adamant about the separation of church & state.

  6. Somebody ought to slap a burka and a hijab on the poor escort. At best, she’ll show just how tired of the separation of church and state she really is.

  7. If bobert had actually attended high school, she would understand that we have a very proud and long-standing tradition separating religion and state. As her side would so gladly put it, America: love it or leave it. Maybe she should just go join the Taliban in Pakistan like she seems hell bent on doing instead of turning us into the Taliban.

  8. As exasperating as that moron Boubert is, and as rapidly as she found Jesus after spreading STDs on some dating escort website, I’m really not worried about separating church and state. Too many Americans have woken up and realized that there is no god and we’re on our own to either help each other or lose everything, including our fragile democratic experiment.

    Besides. Bible thumpers are always embarrassing, a fact compounded by their refusal to acknowledge how embarrassing they are, and yeah though the calico and bonnet crowd has their place and everybody’s free to be what they are, I in turn am free to laugh at them and identify them as the embarrassing idiots that they are. I mean seriously, what do you expect when you home “school” your kid because of religious differences? You’re going to get ostracized and you deserve it. Same thing goes for religious fundamentalism. The only people that are going to be your friends are other religious fundamentalists, and that demographic is shrinking rapidly despite the noise made by Boubert, trump, Tina Peters, and that psycho-mother Sharona Bishop (hence exiled to Texas which is incredibly appropriate)

    • Wow, this is quite a battle.

      In one corner…the chief author of the Declaration of Independence, proponent of the Bill of Rights, diplomat, lawyer, philosopher, and one of the Founding Fathers of our nation: the man who drafted the first version of the First Amendment.

      and in the opposite corner…an oil-field skank with a taxpayer-funded boob job, a history of driving drunk, a lax attitude towards food safety, a online GED, and the ability to “coax” a golf ball through 100′ of garden hose…the woman who thinks Baby Jesus should write our laws.

  9. “Strutting back and forth across the stage like a televangelist”

    That is the first thing that came to mind when I saw it for the first time.
    She is very savvy on how to identify with her supporters.

    Probably getting some coaching possibly from the big boys as she is a major player for the loons nationwide.

    A lot of good it did to change affiliation and vote against her in the primary.

    • Struttin’ around like some lowlife, wavin’ his junk at underage girls in a bowling alley…

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